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Entity Bulk file - person file without relation reference

Hi,

for the past 3 weeks the person entity bulk file was delivered without relations reference of the insiders, i.e. only the name of the insider was available.

I have checked the permid website and it seems that the relations are missing from both the company context as well as the person context.

https://permid.org/1-34414252485 - Jack Dorsey from Twitter does not have relations displayed even after the user is logged in.

https://permid.org/1-4297297477 - Facebook has no insiders displayed either.

What is the reason behind this?

Thanks in advance!

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@nikolay.vasilev

I have checked the latest person file (OpenPermID-bulk-person-20200510_072506) and found that the value the holdsPosition attribute has been fixed, as shown below.


C:\workspace\apache-jena-3.14.0\OpenPermID-bulk-person-20200510_072506.ntriples>findstr holdsPosition OpenPermID-bulk-person-20200510_072506.ntriples
<https://permid.org/1-34414228224> <http://permid.org/ontology/person/holdsPosition> <https://permid.org/2-9edfcd0cb9e1bd6c97952aaa7e8e5b539d44bbce76737cafdde65a8595d04c01> .
<https://permid.org/1-34414064396> <http://permid.org/ontology/person/holdsPosition> <https://permid.org/2-82ec4febdab59b64dc7090252532f31b68f184d590a65727f3726e060d03e267> .
<https://permid.org/1-34414073201> <http://permid.org/ontology/person/holdsPosition> <https://permid.org/2-cffa4d56368b70cd554ac2d97e729237efeded2b12897668841802f97b1d9b9d> .
<https://permid.org/1-34414220896> <http://permid.org/ontology/person/holdsPosition> <https://permid.org/2-7de2998f404b0515944f15a8a2dbc8e72f359a28ad99f62ec03bf978b8e4755a> .
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@nikolay.vasilev

You are correct. The attributes, such as holdsPosition, and hasTenureInOrganization that link between the organization and person are missing.

I will report this to the Open PermID team to verify the problem.


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Hi @jirapongse.phuriphanvichai thanks for reacting. Do you have more information on when the above might be solved. Latest files from this weekend are missing the relation-related fields.

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@nikolay.vasilev

I got a response from the development team that this issue will be fixed in the next release.

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jirapongse.phuriphanvichai @nikolay.vasilev

I just checked the latest release as of March 8 and still the relation-related fields are missing.

Any idea when they will show up again?

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I have contacted the Open PermID team to verify it.

Dear @jirapongse.phuriphanvichai did the Open Permid team give you some response?

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@jirapongse.phuriphanvichai I trying to use the Permid last release (15 Mar, 2020) and the issue still there, from the person bulk are missing:

Person:

  • holds_position
  • has_qualification
  • has_tenure_in_organization

AcademicQualification:

  • from_institution_name
  • in_subject
  • with_degree

Directorship/OfficerShip:

  • has_holder
  • has_position_type
  • has_reported_title
  • is_position_in

TenureInOrganization:

  • has_holder
  • is_tenure_in

DirectorRole/OfficerRole:

  • rank

Did you have some information from the development team? Thanks in advance.Did you have some information of the development team? Or espectative?

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From the latest response, they are fixing this issue.

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The export from March 29 still lacks the relations from above.

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I have checked the latest files (12 Apr, 2020) and found that the person relations are back. However, the format of the holdsPosition attribute looks strange.

<https://permid.org/1-34413795505> <http://permid.org/ontology/person/holdsPosition> <https://permid.org/1-http://permid.org/2-c639c5ed848f0309079ff28c6c52ea4c74159fc2b553fad14fec25a8eb55cb0e> .

I will contact the PermID team to verify it.

Moreover, the results from the PermID website looks okay now.


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@jirapongse.phuriphanvichai Thanks for that :+1

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