@bernard.thouin

Hi Bernard,

I've had a look at the OrgIDs in terms of existing and the DSS GUI confirms that data on these 4 does exist:

OrgID: 95822 (Detail)

OrgID: 19038 (Detail)

OrgID: 45240 (Detail)

OrgID: 107216921 (Detail)

Initially it's probably worth you confirming if you have Legal Entity Detail via the User Permissions enabled on your ID via the GUI, it will be in the "Entity Data" frame, label: Detail, if the checkbox is unchecked then you will need to contact your Refinitiv Account Manager.

If the checkbox is enabled already then please provide the API request code and we can investigate further.

Best regards,

Gareth

Hi Gareth

Yes, you are right, it's a permission problem, I see that in the DSS GUI, there is always the lock symbol for these IDs, and it tells me to "rent the data" if I click on the details tab... As my employer is currently negotiating a contract for entity data with Refinitiv, I will wait for that to be signed :)

Important for me was to understand the reason for the problem. However, I'd day that it would be much better for the API to return an empty row with an error text saying something like "Permission denied" or similar, instead of returning no row whatsoever, which looks very much like an unexplained bug. My 2 cents...

Bernard

Gareth

No, wait, strange.

If I use your links to the 4 entities, it tells me I can't get the detail (that's what I describe in my previous answer).

BUT, if I use the User Permissions link, it shows me that I am permissioned for Audit, Detail and Hierarchy ! All 3 have a tick ! So there is something wrong.

Bernard

Gareth

My API call for the entities is bland, here it is:

extractEntitiesRequest = New LegalEntityDetailExtractionRequest With {.IdentifierList = entityList, .ContentFieldNames = fieldNames,

.Condition = New LegalEntityDetailCondition With {.DeltaDays = 100}}

fieldNames:

Country of Incorporation
Country of Incorporation Description
Country of Risk - Ultimate Parent - All
Derived Parent OrgID
Domicile
Fund Lipper ID
Headquarters City/Town
TRBC Business Sector Code
TRBC Business Sector Code Description
TRBC Economic Sector Code
TRBC Economic Sector Code Description
TRBC Industry Code
TRBC Industry Code Description
Entity LEI
Immediate Parent LEI
Ultimate Parent LEI

entityList:

13389
13443
17092
17483
17699
19038
20240
20245
38025
40751
45240
63638
90619
95822
106191
107216921

HTH

Bernard

@bernard.thouin, @gareth.teage,

To follow up on Gareth's answers and query, if the issue is related to DeltaDays and not to permissioning, then you can set DeltaDays deifferently. Here is what it can be set to:

• -1 => anytime
• 0 => today
• 1 => since yesterday
• 2 => within 2 days
• etc.

You could use either a large value, or even -1, to rake in more results.

If you are swamped with results you could program a process along these lines (or some variation of this):

1. Request data with DeltaDays=100
2. For all instruments that did not deliver data in the previous request, make a request with DeltaDays=365
3. For all instruments that did not deliver data in the previous request, make a request with DeltaDays=-1

Hope this helps,

Christiaan

Gareth, Christiaan

It begs the question why there is a DeltaDays parameter at all. Even if the data is "old", it's still valid, isn't it, so what's the point of hiding it ?

This brings me to another question, which I wanted to ask anyway: how do you find entity data, when you have only basically an entity name and a proprietary entity ID from some banking system for a counterparty, for which you need entity data ? My banking client for example uses loads of financial counterparties for various transactions and as custodians, and they'd like to get TR entity detail data for all of these, but they not always have an LEI for these counterparties.

Thanks for hints about that problem.

Bernard